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Talon Razor 'GM'
17 December 2002, 02:17 PM
I am going to write an Infinties Campaign that has were on the Death Star II Darth Vader survives and becomes a major leader in the Jedi movment. Now lets say that he was to marry after Luke set up his acdemy. Who would he marry? I don't have any idea what so ever.

Anyhoo thanks for any suggestions!

Fred Getce
17 December 2002, 06:15 PM
Considering Anakin was from the pre-order of the Jedi and his one true love is dead, I would dare say Anakin would never re-marry, but instead led a chaste life until he is reunited with Padme.

I actually wonder what would have happened if Anakin Skywalker would have survived the battle with his son and returned to the light. Could you see Anakin (still in the cybernetic suit to keep him alive mechanical voice and all) in New Republic council meetings or sitting on the Jedi Council? How about all the adventures leading up to the YV invasion. Could you imagine "Vader" at the Truce at Bakura? How about when Thrawn tried to rebuild the Empire? Now were talking campaign TWIST!

ElfWord
18 December 2002, 01:01 PM
While I agree with Fred, I'd like to offer some possibilities for you:
1. Mon Mothma?? She's the only major female Alliance figure I can think of.
2. Unbeknownst to everyone except Vader, the Emperor had a daughter. At the time he could not sense the force in her, so he sent her away to a prison thinking that she wasn't force sensitive. Vader rescues her from the heavily guarded prison on some uncharted planet, and marries her. It turns out she is force-sensitive, but her birth was so touched by the darkside that it caused her force abilities to remain latent until later in life.
3. Callista. While she might be a little young for him, wasn't she older than Luke?
4. The Emperor had a concubine in the EU, but I can't remember her name. She was Force-sensitive and could possibly be turned back to the Lightside.

Talon Razor 'GM'
18 December 2002, 02:26 PM
Well Fred my thoughts on what would happen is that Thrawn takes over the Empire, New Republic bans Jedi (After all Darth Vader is the most hated and all the systems would not believe his conversion. Luke would stand by his father of course.), the Jedi Academy does not have people fall to the darkside due to a former Sith telling them why it is bad and the Ssi-ruuk pop up. Add to this the Yuuzhan-Vong and I am thinking of running a campiagn like this! :D Lots of baddies for the players!

Thanks Elfword. Due to were I am taking this, I can't have him marry Mon Mothma, (Or maybe I could, make things REALLY confusing...), I have not read the series about Castilla and I can't see him marrying anyone related to the Emperor due to his sorrow of serving him.

Thanks for the suggestions!

Poof's Padawan
19 December 2002, 06:50 PM
You should have him marry a Twi'lek hooker!:D That would make the campaign kinda interesting!

Iain Kysler, Jedi Apprentice
20 December 2002, 07:15 AM
Now THIS would be a plot twist:

Anakin Skywalker, meet Anakin Solo...whoa...talk about making your head spin.

Now, another question: Until we see Episode III, do we know Padme is REALLY dead? Or does she go into hiding? Would be interesting to find out.

Gawd...Anakin Solo, sitting on Darth Vader's knee...oh my...not sure Leia would be too happy with that...and Han...well, let's not go there...

Anakin: Grandpa, why doesn't Mom want me to talk to you very much?

Vader: She has good reason, grandson. I have not given her much reason to trust my good intentions in the past. She is much more forgiving than I feel I deserve most times...

Talk about an interesting seen...and look out Yuuzhan Vong! If you mess with the Dark Lord's grandson...omigod...the consequences...

Krad-edis
20 December 2002, 01:19 PM
He would marry a woman named Ela.
This way she would be known as "Ela Vader"

I don't remember when I heard that joke, but it was a long time ago. :D ;)

I had a campaign in the works where Luke turned to the dark side, and a broken Vader managed to escape the wrath of Palpatine and Luke. Vader was so preoccupied with redemption and trying to save his son that I did not consider even having him dating or a love interest. I couldn't possibly see Vader or Anakin doing a New Republic or Rebellion version of Joe Millionaire or The Bachelor. I think after all the horror the man caused while twisted by the dark side would make him very reluctant to try and get emotional about too many others.

Fred Getce
20 December 2002, 01:35 PM
How about a women named Spacen?

Mrs. Spacen Vader? :D

Darien_Shadowfyre
20 December 2002, 11:29 PM
Here's a possibilty that came about in my current campaign that you can take and modify to your own.

I had a clone of Vader running the Empire (sans Anakin's soul). In a quick sum up, Vader used a Sith artifact to entrap Anakin's spirit to torment Luke and to use for some Sith experiments he was trying to recreate from the Emperor's notes. The PCs made a BRILLIANT leap of logic and broke the crystal containing Anakin's soul/force essence ON Vader, allowing the spirit and attempt to possess the body (they decided to try this since a Sith Lord possessed a former PC when they destroyed a Sith Holocron without thinking earlier). I found the technique original, so I decided to run with it and let it happen.

So now there's a 26yo Anakin Skywalker, completely undamaged, running around the galaxy, shortly after the events of Dark Empire I. His return is NOT going over well with the galaxy at large, and there are protests and riots, demanding he be turned over for trial. Luke & Leia are sheltering him, but things are about to turn ugly. Anakin feels he should be punished, even put to death for his crimes as the original Vader (and to some degree for the further atrocities of his clone). Luke refuses, and Leia, torn between New Republic law and her brother and this new father she's suddenly met and actually sympathizes for is making her life miserable. :)

Ahhhh Star Wars, Buffy-style. ;)

Talon Razor 'GM'
20 December 2002, 11:48 PM
Ha! U would love my online campaign! Kinda of the same thing, only were Vader lives through Death Star II. So he wants to right the wrong but the New Republic kicks the Jedi out becuase of pressure from the planets. So the Jedi go and form their own faction, with Luke and Anakin having a very succesful Academy. So most of the students that went haywire, did not. So a large Jedi order is happening becuase of Anakin's expeirence.

Well, what did Luke do right after Endor? Stop the Ssi-ruuk. Which he did not becuase of helping Vader live. (Anakin is cured through a force bonding with daughter and son). So now the Ssi-ruuk invade, plus Thrawn has taken control of the Empire, plus Xizor goes off and forms his own Empire, and the Yuuzhan-Vong decide to invade way early due to the galaxy splitting up. So you have the Free Jedi States, New Republic, Ssi-ruuk, Empire, Imperial Royalists (Xizor) and the Yuuzhan-Vong all fighting eachother.

Oh and C'boath is cloning Sith and there is a Dark Jedi Academy set up.

Can you say...chaos? :D

Should be an interesting game, to say the least.

Wedge in Red2
1 January 2003, 03:11 AM
Originally posted by Fred Getce

I actually wonder what would have happened if Anakin Skywalker would have survived the battle with his son and returned to the light. Could you see Anakin (still in the cybernetic suit to keep him alive mechanical voice and all) in New Republic council meetings or sitting on the Jedi Council?

How's about "No Fricking Way!" :D.

This is actually a very interesting point. A friend of mine spoke to me about an article that he read which effectively said Star Wars is bad because "it forgives Hitler". Vader, as the Hitler-esque mass murderer, repents at the end and is apparently "forgiven" despite all the blood on his hands - the light side of the force accepts him, as does his son. I would say that, even if Luke forgave him, the New Republic would still have difficulty accepting such a "War Criminal".

So, if Anakin survived and was accepted by the Jedi, but not the New Republic, that could force a very interesting wedge (no play on my name intended) between the Republic and it's "Guardians".

Sorry, a little off topic, but I thought I'd have to chuck my 2cr in. Just because Vader has heroically attoned for his wrongs and turned back to the light side doesn't necessarily mean he would politically or legally be absolved of blame for his actions. A man who kills his wife but then goes out and saves a baby from a burning building doesn't get away with the former because he's tried to make ammends with the later.

Jon :)

drakmund
1 January 2003, 01:01 PM
I'll give you another twist... how about Mara Jade? She goes after Luke after both Vader and the Emperor are dead but if Vader was alive as Anakin, wouldn't she go after him instead and Anakin would then turn her instead of Luke.

Just a thought.

Talon Razor 'GM'
1 January 2003, 02:31 PM
Wedge, you are right. That is the angle I am playing up. In my soon-to-start campaign (which is still accepting players), the Jedi are on their own and the New Republic has banned all of them. They have only a few planets and are trying to eek out a life. It should be very interesting....

Mara Jade would be interesting....though she is too young. I don't know..

Terras Jadeonar & Raven
1 January 2003, 03:01 PM
So have Padme return... have her found living a peaceful lonely lifestyle on one of those distant planets yer players land on... Of course they dont recognize her at first and she's weary & cautios to reveal her true identity... Maybe she's grown soft, or even bitter over the spanse of time...

Talk about trapping yer players between a moral rock and a hard place!

Fred Getce
2 January 2003, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Wedge in Red2
This is actually a very interesting point. A friend of mine spoke to me about an article that he read which effectively said Star Wars is bad because "it forgives Hitler". Vader, as the Hitler-esque mass murderer, repents at the end and is apparently "forgiven" despite all the blood on his hands - the light side of the force accepts him, as does his son. I would say that, even if Luke forgave him, the New Republic would still have difficulty accepting such a "War Criminal".

Don't want to high jack the thread, but...

I would compare Grand Moff Tarkin to Hitler, before Vader. Vader personally killed what, 6 people on film and some of them were in times of war (the fighter scenes in ANH). However Grand Moff Tarkin blew up an entire planet killing billions (of course this is using only canon facts). Besides Lucas was showing more of a "To error is human; to forgive is divine" with the last scene in ROTJ when Luke sees OB1 and Yoda with his father. So if the Force can forgive than what does that say about the rest of us?

I personally do not think Vader would remarry after all that he went through. Probably concentrate on his future grandchildren and Luke future as a Jedi Maser rebuilding the Jedi Order (could you imagine the butt whooping Anakin/Vader could dish out to the Vong).

JediPadawan47
2 January 2003, 11:54 PM
I beleive that Vade could have a love life, once you remove a few major problems
1) His ID as the Emperores Right Hand Man
2) His shattered body/suit

1 is easy, say Luke claimed Vader did die, and since no one has seen vade in forever outside of his suit....
2 goes hand in hand with one, Its mentioned in SHadows of the Empire that Vader could heal is lungs as long as he felt anger burning in him, couldn't a Jedi Healer help him to recovery or he buy cloned organs or whatever through the black market? (Tales of the Bounty hunters)

If he could marry someone I feel he might marry an older Jedi trainee, or a Jedi that had escaped the Purge and could sense the goodness of Vader

Wedge in Red2
3 January 2003, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by Fred Getce


Don't want to high jack the thread, but...


In the interests of not hijacking this thread, I've started another one here. (http://holonet.swrpgnetwork.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10927)

Please feel free to continue the discussion - I for one am quite interested in people opinions on the subject.

Jon :)

Admiral_Atredies
3 January 2003, 06:07 PM
Yeah, I think that seriously, Vader has so many war crimes under his belt that he wouldn't get out of a New Republic prison for a thousand years. But that in itself cou;d make for an interesting story, as Luke tries to convince everyone Vader has changed, neat things could unfold!

Also, if vader was accepted, he would probably get a new suit, so he wont look all evil anymore. Maybe a white one :).

Talon Razor 'GM'
5 January 2003, 01:02 AM
Nah, I think a force bonding between daughter and son would heal him, much like Mara and how she got (highlight for possible spoiler) .healed.

If you want to join my campaign, which explores if Vader lived, click this link (http://holonet.swrpgnetwork.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10833) and post to join. I think Vader, and the Jedi cuase Luke would stay with him, would get banned by the Republic. So they have to go and form their own factions, maybe with the Jensaarai.

Anyways... intering stuff. I am suprised at the amount of people saying Padme lives. Padme would hate him by now, wouldn't you think?

Wedge in Red2
5 January 2003, 03:41 AM
Originally posted by Talon Razor 'GM'
Anyways... intering stuff. I am suprised at the amount of people saying Padme lives. Padme would hate him by now, wouldn't you think?

Just because she might hate him doesn't mean she doesn't still love him. Love is a pretty strong thing, and despite all he did, Padme could still love him. I mean, to her eyes, he may still seem like the little boy who was taken from his mother, who had suffered a lot of hurt and lashed out in pain. I think that it's not inconceivable she could forgive him. Although we don't really know yet, it depends what happens in Ep 3 :).

Jon

ALFRED_THE_EWOK
9 January 2003, 05:51 PM
I really doubt Vader would re-marry, especially considering that no man or woman would find him attractive and would be scared crapless just being near him. He could perhaps take some concubines if he felt the need, though.

Terras Jadeonar & Raven
9 January 2003, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by ALFRED_THE_EWOK
I really doubt Vader would re-marry, especially considering that no man or woman would find him attractive and would be scared crapless just being near him. He could perhaps take some concubines if he felt the need, though.

Hmmm... If what you say is true... Then wouldnt vader need to use the Jedi / Sith Mind trick on those concubines? other than paying them exorbant fees, wouldn't that be cruel and reminiscant of his former self?

Interesting delima you present there ALFRED :p

Arcome
23 January 2003, 02:17 PM
Just to piss Luke off, Mara Jade. You know he would be tapping that ass all night long. (as 70''s style porn music kicks in from the background) He'd be a darksider again in one standard minute. He might just want to kick wedge's ass and take Qwi Xux, but maybe he isn't into that Omwati thing. I think he could get pretty freaky though. I don't want anyone mentioning anything about him and the Emperor though. That's just wrong.