View Full Version : *Poof*, and they dissapear.

25 April 2003, 04:41 AM
In all the classic movies, when the jedi Masters die, they float away and disappear. but when Qui-Gon gets a 'saber in the gut he just stays and gets cremated. Why is this? is it just a plot hole or what?

Jim Williams
25 April 2003, 04:49 AM
It's supposed to be pivotal to EpIII why Jedi don't disappear prior to EpIII. Also, in the novelization of AOTC, Yoda is quite surprised to hear Qui-Gonn's voice telling Anikin, "No, Anikin, no!" during his meditations and Anikin is slaughtering TRs...

25 April 2003, 06:06 AM
A lot of people have complained about this "plot hole", and claimed Lucas was "coping out" when he repeatly stated it was a plot point.
But most of these people fail to recall Vader's surprise at what happened to Obi-Wan during their duel in A New Hope, which should have indicated, after the major revelation of him being former Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker, that this was not a common trait among Jedi. But don't worry, even the really good authors of the EU like Mike Stackpole missed that one.

25 April 2003, 07:16 AM
Interesting talk here...they only disappear when they pertain to Anakin....hmmm....

Frobi-Wan Kenobi
25 April 2003, 09:28 AM
Here (http://holonet.swrpgnetwork.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6309) is a thread about this very subject.

25 April 2003, 11:24 AM
In short, the Episode II novelization clarifies that as of that time it was unprecedented for dead Jedi to maintain individual existence in the Force. This is something that Qui-Gon learned or otherwise managed to do when he communicated to Anakin on Tatooine. (so what exactly causes Obi-Wan and others to vanish that way is unknown, and recent EU hasn't speculated for obvious reasons)

This is reliably the case, since Salvatore knew the issue would crop up in Episode III and doubtless consulted with Lucas on this expansion from the screenplay.

21 May 2003, 01:18 PM
Maybe it was because he was killed by a sith apprentice, Yoda died from old age and Obi-wanith Lord but, Who knows, maybe he wasn't totally at One with the Force.:(

22 May 2003, 05:24 AM
Maybe it has to do with balancing the force. As the Dark Side becomes dominent, the Light Side needs to help balance it in preperation for Anakin/Luke to bring balance back.