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Sithspawn
29 September 2004, 03:44 AM
To quote Pulp Fiction, "you do not **** with another mans car!"

Just what do these mindless idiots get from damaging property?!

I drive a beautiful 1978 MGB GT, not everyones cup tea, but it is mine. Last night someone has ripped the badge from the rear tailgate, scratching the paintwork in the process. This was late at night so wasn't kids, and was right outside my house too. I've reported it to the police, but really, what are they going to do for a fifteen quid badge!!?

I had to shout somewhere, and I'm sure there's people here who have also been on the receiving end.

Rant over.


Wow. Just as I was about to hit Post I got a phone call from the Police. At least they are treating it as a crime. So I guess that's a RAVE for the West Midlands Police.

Sarge
29 September 2004, 07:33 AM
Dude, that's a crying shame. MGs are beautiful little cars. I've seen pics of the MGA my dad drove in college, and I really wish he'd kept it for me to inherit. :(

Kanner Ra'an
29 September 2004, 07:35 AM
People suck. I echo your sentaments about what do these losers get out of it.

dragonseye
29 September 2004, 07:43 AM
Yup, stupid things people do. And don't count kids out as being the culprits- though I guess it depends on where you live. My hubby and I had similar experiences and was the reason why I moved from the city we used to be at- well that and the fact the apartment was a roach motel under the ownership of a slumlord.

At the least the vadnalism is being treated as a real crime. Our police did nothing- didn't even take a report- when our room mate's car was vandalized. Some gits took handfuls of rocks and pelted his brand new car's passenger window until the window shattered. And continiued to throw rocks until every peice of shattered glass was broken out. On top of that, the storage area was broken into and our neighbors $1000 USD of fishing equipment was stolen. The cops answer to the fellows question about what would be done was that "I hope you have renters insurance..." The cop also didn't file a report for that break
-in.

Well, I hope you can replace the stolen part easily and get the car back into good condition. :) It's never fun having to put up with other people's stupidity.

proxima centauri
29 September 2004, 07:59 AM
Happened to me and my Honda Accord. They took the honda logo off. I didn't report it to the police, as it would have been laughed at ;). But these things are expensive... I couldn't let it be like that or rust would have taken over... the darn plastic logo is "worth" 20 $ GAG!

Oh... well...

Worst things in life happen.

Peace out.

Sithspawn
29 September 2004, 08:07 AM
Cheers for your woes too.

I think I've chilled out now.

Dr_Worm
29 September 2004, 10:17 AM
I had one very gratifying moment last year. It was late at night and I took my dog out for a walk. As I am comming back I turn the corner to see some punk hunched over my trunk making a scraping sound. He obviously was not paying much attention to the world around him, because I was able to walk right up behind him and smack him on the back of the head saying "What the F*** do you think you are doing?!" Either this guy was a wimp, or he was totally surprised becuse my smack on the back of the head, which was not that hard, made him crack his nose really hard on the trunk (boot) of my car. Blood immediatly started pouring out, and I almost apologized out of habit.

So then the guy looks up to see me and Angus (my dog) standing there. Mind you I am not a huge guy, and even though Angus was a huge dog (80lb Airdale), he was far from aggressive. He never even barked through the whole encounter. That being said the guy freaked. He turned and ran so fast that he tripped over my foot and smacked nose first (again) in to the pavement. This time I am sure he broke it becuse the blood spatter on the white concrete was shockingly big. He managed to get up yelling obscenitiesat me and his rotten luck, and bolt further down my little street.

Now this would have been funny enough, but my street at the time was a dead-end with no outlets. Realizing this I called the police with my cell and waited for him to come back. He came running back about minute later and stopped dead in his tracks when he saw me leaning against my car. I mean you would have though I was holding a gun or something becuse he just froze and started to sob as blood poured out his nose. I told him the cops were on their way and asked him if I should call an ambulance. He would not take his eyes off Angus who looks for all the world like the Old Navy dog (but bigger) and just ran past me as fast as he could balling his head off.

The police came a few minutes later, and I gave them a report. They thought it was funny as hell and kept patting my dufus dog on the head. As we were finishing the report they got a call on their radios that said that and unidentified white male was refusing to leave the Wallgreens down the street. He was aparently trying to walk in with a bleeding nose so he could buy some bandages or something.

They picked him up pretty quick, and he ended up pleading guilty so I never had to go to court. It was a very surreal experience. I never saw myself as someone who would invoke fear, but aparently this guy was such as wuss it did not matter.

wolverine
29 September 2004, 10:50 AM
While i have luckly avoided having a car keyed or anyother part of vandalism, i have seen several cases of it. 1 which made me sick to my stomach was a group of kids, not more than 14, who were using sledge hammers to smash up grave stones.
When i started to chase after them (along with the 8 other guys from my shop who were there paying respects to a lost navy buddy) they scrammed, though i did see pieces of shirt and some blood from a fense that they jumped... Personally i can never understand why they do this, and do NOT buy all that liberal crud spouted that they should not be punished, but get helped as there is a deeper problem and all that...

wolfe
29 September 2004, 11:27 AM
sympathies man...
which is why i dont trust people.

folks dont naturaly presume its kids all the time, you got some real winners in the 'adult' stage out there..

my brothers car was broken into items stolen ,vandalized.. i wasn't happy.. was no where near happy.. he's a single father and works very hard. the police only had a small part in it as his federal gear was taken -refuses to keep loaded weapon in home with his son-

I placed sticker on his car like mine:
People found vandalizing this car WILL be shot, survivors WILL be shot again.

Sithspawn
29 September 2004, 11:53 AM
Like the sign Wolfe. I was thinking of parking the car in the same place with the Police incident number on it, but figured if it wasn't a drunk, he might just go and smash the car in at that.

And Dr_Worm, go that man. B)

Rostek
29 September 2004, 12:38 PM
That sucks Sithspawn it really does.
I've never understood why kids especially vandelize cars.
I mean, I've tossed some eggs and TP'eed some houses in my day, but I never strive for permanent damage (there's really no point, is there?).
Still, it's never good to have you're car messed with, as you're quote from Pulp Fiction so aptly illistrates (awsome flick, btw).
I've never had to worry, as my front-bumperless, rusty 1986 Ford Taurus ('The Tetanus Shot Waiting To Happen' is the nickname my brother created for it B) and, no, the bumper thing isn't my doing ;) ) is really not a good target, in fact, a little vandelism might make it look better.


While i have luckly avoided having a car keyed or anyother part of vandalism, i have seen several cases of it. 1 which made me sick to my stomach was a group of kids, not more than 14, who were using sledge hammers to smash up grave stones.
Wow wolverine that's one I've never heard. That is kinda sick.
Having said that, trust me, the liberal view you ascribe to the "It's not their fault' crowd is misplaced (they may also be liberal, but that view isn't very common. Also, sorry Grim but it is something that at least deserves a quick mention, and there is really no need to respond to it, anyone.). The punks can be helped (which they need as well, so they don't pull the crap again), while they're being punished (the concept of personal resposibility for needless actions is part of 'help', after all).

dgswensen
29 September 2004, 02:18 PM
A very satisfying story, Dr_Worm. And Sithspawn], my sympathies -- that sucks. Some people are just no good.

Talon Razor 'GM'
30 September 2004, 02:23 PM
Worm thank you for that great story! That laugh was needed and highly enjoyed. That guy was probably high as a kite or something...

Probably will never touch a car again....

Dr_Worm
30 September 2004, 03:16 PM
The funny thing is aside from the initial openhanded whack on the back of the head, which was not that hard, all I did was sit back and watch the guy freak out. I think I have hit my friends in Basketball harder than I hit that guy. Sometimes it is best to let fools beat themselves up. I was shocked and concerned at how much he was bleeding, so he might have been on something that was thinning his blood.

Fingon
1 October 2004, 03:45 PM
Nice story Dr., but I have one also.

My dad used to have this dog, rusty; brown lab, about 80 lb. He was never violent, but he sure barked a lot. One day we heard that there was an escaped serial killer on the loose. We had just stared to worry when we heard rusty barking. He had pinned the before mentioned serial killer up against the wall, had his face right up agianst his, barking his heart out, and our neighbors dog was gnawing at his leg.

The man was crying, asking us to take him back to jail. The police were happy to comply.

We sent his a picture of our dog the next week.

KenobiJim
2 October 2004, 04:25 PM
MGs are too cool to get hurt like that - even a little.

I have a '95 Ninja. I used to work for OfficeMax (bad enough I know). And in the early evening, NOT ONCE, BUT TWICE, some random ruffian kicked over my motorcycle. The only damage was to my blinker lights but I was more than a little miffed, especially after the second time. I don't have any (known) enemies, so I don't know. Oh well, I thought I would add to the rant...

Sithspawn
3 October 2004, 01:31 AM
My mom runs a small motorcycle training school, so is all too familiar to damage to 'bikes.

It's got to be jealously, as with Kenobi Jim's Ninja. I've only had the MG a couple of months, yet for 6 years no one so much as looked twice at my old battered and dented Land Rover.

Korpil
4 October 2004, 10:57 AM
Darn luck, sithspawn, it's just people trying to get attention the worst way possible... and in the end... what do they get? nothing... not a beautiful car to drive, maybe not even a car to drive... anyway...

Something silly happened to me the other day, a friend of mine received by mistake two of those license plate mounts you got when ordering Jedi Academy straight from Lucasarts, so he gave me one, and I put it proudly on my Honda Civic... two day later, I noticed it was broken!!! Talking with my mother (who had driven the car the day before) I was outrageous and criticizing people for being so rude... and she was getting redder and redder... and in the end, she told me she had broke it accidentally when downloading some boxes from the trunk... then it was me who was red as an apple...

JediJester
13 October 2004, 06:01 PM
It's kinda funny, but a lot of my friends think I'm weird because I leave the doors unlocked on my car. My thoughts are that it's a Ford Escort wagon, so no one's gonna steal it (almost at the bottom of the list for stolen cars in my area). What's more, I never have anything of value in it and the stereo doesn't work.

A buddy of mine had a stupid little Geo Metro that got broken into and the stereo system in it ripped out. It sucked that his car was broken into for the stereo, but it was kind of ironic in a way. An electrical short had just fried the stereo a week or so before and he'd just bought a new one. Because the stereo that was stolen had been top of the line, his insurance covered its theft (plus the replacement of the broken window) so he actually came out ahead.

In my youth (scary that I can say that now) I TP'ed, toothepasted, Jello'ed, shaving creamed, and gooped more things than I can remember, but I never went for damage. I mean, I wouldn't want people to damage my stuff, so why would I do it to other people. It's kinda funny to me how such a simple concept confuses sooooo many people.

wolverine
14 October 2004, 11:51 AM
The closest i have come to 'vandalism' is popping a guy's car door open, pealing back that rubber gasket/sealer just on the inside (to keep out the rain) and taping 8 stink bombs and 4 fire crackers to the underside. Then carefully closing the door.
The guy we did this to, was a real dirtbag. Never showered (well in the 7 months he was on ship, especially when underway), rarely washed his clothes. Stunk to high heaven. Had 4 health and comfort inspections, 2 masts and 75 days of restriction cause of his lack of hygene.
We did this to get back at him....

Would you all consider those kids who seem to delite in standing on a bridge and throwing stones/bricks at oncomming cars, vandals.. or something worse?

Dr_Worm
14 October 2004, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by wolverine

Would you all consider those kids who seem to delite in standing on a bridge and throwing stones/bricks at oncomming cars, vandals.. or something worse?

Boderline anti-social personality disorder which is characteriszed by an inability ot empathize with the pain of other. These people jsut have no way of understanding or caring of how thier actions impact others.

JediJester
14 October 2004, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by wolverine
Would you all consider those kids who seem to delite in standing on a bridge and throwing stones/bricks at oncomming cars, vandals.. or something worse?

I'd consider them spoiled brats. I've known too many "kids" who's parents gave them everything they wanted and they never had to work for any of it. Consequently, they did not understand the value of things.

Sithspawn
25 October 2004, 02:20 PM
You're not going to believe this, someone has done it AGAIN !!!!
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
I was parked somewhere totally different, round a mates house, and was only there for 20 minutes. This time they've cut to the metal work meaning a spray job. I'm going to refrain from expressing my true feeliong on these family boards, but it doesn't take a hyperdrive engineer to figure out how angry I'm feeling right now. If I were a Jedi I'd have just turned Sith! I'm just gonna' surf the Star Wars boards for an hour to take my mind off it.

Rostek
25 October 2004, 02:29 PM
That sucks Sithspawn, people these days :mad:
Some people just can't handle others having nice things.

Jedi_Staailis
25 October 2004, 04:15 PM
I'll add my own vandalism/theft story. A friend of mine owns an ancient Honda Accord with over 150,000 miles on it. The interior is falling to pieces, but the engine still runs well, so he's kept it, and it's picked up the nickname "Swamp Thing." He also has a bunch of plastic toy alligators in there, which heightens the effect.

One of our friends drew a great picture of a swamp and alligators behind the words "Swamp Thing" on a magnet. We put it on the car.

One day, during a quick run to the supermarket, we returned to the car to find the magnet gone. It didn't have anything but sentimental value. It's the same as the vandalism. Why would someone enjoy damaging or stealing the property of others when it doesn't help themself?

wolverine
26 October 2004, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by Sithspawn
You're not going to believe this, someone has done it AGAIN !!!!
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
I was parked somewhere totally different, round a mates house, and was only there for 20 minutes. This time they've cut to the metal work meaning a spray job. I'm going to refrain from expressing my true feeliong on these family boards, but it doesn't take a hyperdrive engineer to figure out how angry I'm feeling right now. If I were a Jedi I'd have just turned Sith! I'm just gonna' surf the Star Wars boards for an hour to take my mind off it.

I can understand that. many a time i have wished with feverance i was a dark sider, just so i could hurl force lightning, or inflict pain on people who are being criminal.

Kanner Ra'an
26 October 2004, 07:01 AM
Time to get one of those anti-carjacker flame guns from south america.

sorcere
26 October 2004, 09:29 AM
Or perhaps set up a camcorder and try to catch them in the act.

proxima centauri
26 October 2004, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Sithspawn
You're not going to believe this, someone has done it AGAIN !!!!
:mad:
This time they've cut to the metal work meaning a spray job. I'm going to refrain from expressing my true feeliong on these family boards, but it doesn't take a hyperdrive engineer to figure out how angry I'm feeling right now.

Do you have any pics of your incidents? I'm not sure I get what happened to the car. But like I said before, it really sucks, but is unfortunatly part of life. Unless you catch them right handed, not much you can do but repair and hope for the best in the future... although twice... third's .... let's hope it doesn't happen again.

wolverine
26 October 2004, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by sorcere
Or perhaps set up a camcorder and try to catch them in the act.

Had a friend try that. Even with it, he could not do anything against the perp, as he was a kid, with 'mental' problems. The police were powerless also.

Kanner Ra'an
26 October 2004, 04:31 PM
Had a friend try that. Even with it, he could not do anything against the perp, as he was a kid, with 'mental' problems. The police were powerless also.

You gotta be kidding me. If hes fit enough to be out on his own he's damn sure mentaly fit enough to know what hes doing. The law really sucks sometimes.

Sithspawn
26 October 2004, 11:04 PM
Spoke to my mechanic. This time I've asked him to just respray the back and forget the badge.

Thanks for the support guys.

JediJester
27 October 2004, 08:47 AM
Had a friend try that. Even with it, he could not do anything against the perp, as he was a kid, with 'mental' problems. The police were powerless also.
If it's a kid, then you should be able to go after his parents or guardians. Either the kid is responsible for his actions or his parents are. If the kid isn't old enough or mentally compitent enough, his guardians shouldn't be letting him out unsupervised.

Of course, if you're like one of my friends, you could resort to the garden hose.

wolverine
27 October 2004, 09:06 AM
You gotta be kidding me. If hes fit enough to be out on his own he's damn sure mentaly fit enough to know what hes doing. The law really sucks sometimes.

Yup it sure does. Heck in england, the laws suck so much, that someone who kills from recles driving, or even ADMITTED dangerous driving can only be charged with minor vehicle related charges, unlike in the states where they can get done for vehiclular manslaughter. Have had a NUMBER of cases highlighted in the papers (and on tv) about it. Like the one asylum seeker, who was already on a driving ban for several other offences, who ran over several people while driving an UNINSURED, and taxed/licenced van. All they could do to him, was extend his ban, give him 14 months in jail (if i remember rightly)....


If it's a kid, then you should be able to go after his parents or guardians. Either the kid is responsible for his actions or his parents are. If the kid isn't old enough or mentally compitent enough, his guardians shouldn't be letting him out unsupervised.

Of course, if you're like one of my friends, you could resort to the garden hose.

Agreed, you should. But it is a screwy country we live in, where people like this can get away with things like this...

JediJester
27 October 2004, 10:05 AM
Agreed, you should. But it is a screwy country we live in, where people like this can get away with things like this...
Every country has screwed up laws and screwed up rulings. A friend of mine got sued by a car thief who stole his car (a beautiful Corvette Stingray) and totalled it. The thief broke into my friend's garage while he was away on vacation, hotwired the car, and took off with it. Unbeknowest to the thief, my friend was working on the car's brakes and had detatched the brake cable. The thief tore out of the garage and tried to go racing through the streets. Unfortunately, no brakes meant he lost control and took out the livingroom in another person's house. The thief, from jail for grande theft auto, sued my friend for not having working brakes on the car which caused him to crash, breaking his legs. The thief actually won :raised:.

You wanna talk about screwy...

Fingon
27 October 2004, 05:19 PM
Now that's just a peice of crap. Alomst sounds like the guy who broke into sometone's house while he was on vacation, got himself locked in it for a week. He sued, won.

I hate frivilious lawsuits.

Kanner Ra'an
27 October 2004, 05:33 PM
Another good one was a thief who broke into a home through a window, but broke his arm and leg because the table he stepped on to get in broke. He sued the owner of the house and won.

You got to wonder when judges will just observe the pretense under which a law was created, and not the exact wording of it.

Rostek
27 October 2004, 05:53 PM
Alomst sounds like the guy who broke into sometone's house while he was on vacation, got himself locked in it for a week. He sued, won.
I hate frivilious lawsuits
Actually, that wouldn't really qualify as a "frivilous" lawsuit, which implies it is "unneccesary for the amount of damage done". This one is just plain stupid.
Most frivilous suits in the US are quickly dismissed (hence "frivilous"). When a stupid sounding one makes it to court, either there's a lot more story behind it, or someone messed up. Usually the former, but the latter isn't uncommon.
Yes, suits over injuries sustained during the commision of a crime should probably be carefully considered before being taken into court (there are some instances, after all, that merit a court case. Rare? Yes, but anything is possible, and thus dismissing them based purely on circumstance would be counter to our [US, UK, Canada-style] legal system).

wolverine
28 October 2004, 12:26 PM
Yea, criminals suing for damages they received while commiting a crime (or escapting the law) are one of my biggest pet peeves with the legal system. WHEN THE heck will judges (and politicians) start listening to the public who puts them there!!!!!!!!!


On a different note. Yesterday, in rural england, a farmer CAUGHT RED HANDED, 2 thieves who were syphoning off his diesel fuel, baracaded them in with his tractor while awaiting the cops. NOW the Criminal prosicution service, the british agency whos job is to decide if there is enought of a case to go to court with), let them free, saying there was insufficient evidence. WTF!

Vanger Chevane
28 October 2004, 01:44 PM
Gotta love a "Justice" System that insists on setting precedents that pratcially require law-abiding citizens to make it easy for criminals to harm them. :rolleyes:


Which is why I have no faith in the current system. It's a Legal System, only concerned with if something is allowed by the written statutes or specifically prohibited, relegating Justice to the Politicians who write the original laws.

Do you want to trust the determination of Socially Right & Wrong to the morals & clarity of Politicians? :?

Fingon
31 October 2004, 08:27 PM
Thanks for the clarifiacation, Rostek. But I was talking to one of my uncles, who teaches history. Over the summer, he thought an urban ledgent course, and the incident that I posted happens to be one. Sorry, guys.

Rostek
1 November 2004, 05:32 AM
Over the summer, he thought an urban ledgent course, and the incident that I posted happens to be one. Sorry, guys.
Don't sweat it :) Actually, that's pretty cool that he teaches a class on urban legends (Mythbusters is actually one of my favorite shows).

neolink111
26 January 2005, 04:29 PM
**brings in balloons and chocolate for everyone who has had something wrecked, stolen, trashed etc..** cheers!