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    All the pilots mentioned in Rogue Squadron were shown in the movies or EU. What ever happened to Kasan Moor? I don't recall her dying.

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    The last mention I can find of Kasan Moor anywhere, is 1 year after Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, when she led Rogue Squadron to Balmorra, "a factory planet at the Outer Edge of the Galactic Core in the Nevoota System that builds advanced weapons." This is from the Rogue Squadron 3d Game.
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    She must have been at Hoth, because the bios in Rogue Squadron show her in a snowspeeder in what I assume to be Echo Base.

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    If Kasan was at Hoth, its quite possible she died. The Rogues were pretty torn up after that engagement.

    KIA:
    -Zev Senesca
    -Dack Ralter
    -Kesin Ommis
    -Kasan Moor (?)
    -At least three more not named

    She isn't mentioned anywhere after the Rogue Squadron game so my guess is that she was taken down in action. Hoth is the likely battle, but its possible she died at Endor or another battle (Derra IV maybe?).

    Good question at any rate. Its interesting someone pointed this out because I had forgotten all about Kasan Moor. Nice memory !
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    Kesin Ommis? Who's that? Was he Hobbie's gunner?

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    Kesin Ommis? Who's that? Was he Hobbie's gunner?
    Yeah, he was Hobbie's gunner who was killed when he got shot down. Hobbie survived with some pretty nasty wounds, but Kesin (who was from Coruscant) was killed on impact. I imagine Kasan, who was a very skilled pilot, probably was blown apart by AT-AT fire if she died at Hoth. Who knows, perhaps she was in the snowspeeder in the background that we see trailing smoke and explode?

    My guess is that she died at Hoth, but until we receive an official confirmation, its anyone's guess.
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    What's wrong with being a gunner? Luke crashes. He lives, Dack dies. Hobbie crashes. He lives, Kesin dies. Any reason?

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    What's wrong with being a gunner? Luke crashes. He lives, Dack dies. Hobbie crashes. He lives, Kesin dies. Any reason?
    Another good question Wedge. (You're getting quite good at them too! )

    I would guess that the gunners took a whole lot more risk for a couple of reasons. Here's my thoughts on the matter.

    1. The fact that the snowspeeders of Rogue Squadron were traveling at such great speeds made targeting them difficult for the AT-AT gunners. As the T-47's moved to engage the Imperial walkers, Luke and most of the other pilots attacked at angles, rather than head-on. This means the AT-AT gunners never had a really good head-on shot as the speeders moved closer and therefore had to settle for hitting the sides, or in Kesin and Dack's instance, the rear of the speeder.

    2. The gunners on the snowspeeders had their backs turned towards the walkers as the Rebels made their approach. My guess is that, since they more than likely had no clue as to what was happening in front of them, their reflexes were slowed a good deal compared to that of the pilot. This probably had something to do with it as well.

    I hope that helps a bit, although this is simply my input on the matter, so it doesn't bear a whole lot of weight. :p
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    Or it could be that they only put airbags in the pilots seats and didn't bother protecting the poor gunners, its a scandal I tell you a scandal.

    Only kidding but I think that she survived and was mentioned in one of the X wing novels. Obviously she was a pilot not a gunner


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    Hunh....I'm gonna go ahead and...have to...disagree with you on that one, Nova. The Rogue Squadron survivor list from Hoth was like five or six people long.

    Rogues we KNOW survived that engagement: Wes Janson, Wedge Antilles, Luke Skywalker, Dash Rendar, Hobbie Klivian and, I believe, Dixie Rivan (I believe...). That leaves a pretty big MIA/KIA list (because, as I recall, Dash joining the Rogues put them back at full strength), but not the 75% casualties you're talking about.

    I'd presume everyone serving with Rogue Squadron in that period died at Hoth, except for the above mentioned.
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    I'd presume everyone serving with Rogue Squadron in that period died at Hoth, except for the above mentioned.
    Oh I agree wholeheartedly, but I don't know the names of all those KIA so I just placed the ones up that I knew for sure (Kasan being the exception). There's no doubt the Rogues took one hell of a beating at Hoth. The only battle that even compares with that im my mind is the Battle of Dantooine in the New Jedi Order where the Rogues took fifty percent casualties.

    When I mentioned "at least three more," I was referring to actual Rogue units (meaning that if three more speeders went down, six Rogues went down with them). And don't forget that Tycho Celchu fought and survived the Battle of Hoth.

    Hoth is one of those battles where the Rebellion was in a lose/lose situation. Just minimizing the losses was considered a minor victory.
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    Originally posted by Nova Spice
    When I mentioned "at least three more," I was referring to actual Rogue units (meaning that if three more speeders went down, six Rogues went down with them). And don't forget that Tycho Celchu fought and survived the Battle of Hoth.

    Hoth is one of those battles where the Rebellion was in a lose/lose situation. Just minimizing the losses was considered a minor victory.
    I think there were 10 snowspeeders (I never counted, to be honest). Which means four made it out unscathed. Leaving room for eight survivors.

    FYI, Tycho did not serve as a Rogue until the Battle of Endor (if then, as I recall Tycho belonged to a separate squadron from the Rogues -- he was Gold, Wedge was Red). Whether or not Tycho served at Hoth is debatable. A question to pose to Michael Stackpole, I suppose.

    Remember, Tycho had just joined the Rebellion around the period Hoth occured. If he was there, it would have been his first assignment...and he's an ex-Imperial, so that's unlikely. I also don't recall seeing any A-Wings in the bays, so I don't think he was there. It's possible, of course, but unlikely.
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    Tarrin Datch (Rogue 10) also survives, Tenk Lenso (Rogue 11), does not survive the battle ... Lt. Tarn Mison flew cover for the Bright Hope so he survived as well.

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    In X-Wing: Rogue Squadron, I believe that Tycho had a patch that identified him as a survivor of Hoth (Ardent, I thouht he was Green at Endor. Y-Wings were Gold). Also, another survivor was Samoc Farr.
    For simplicity, I wll list what we have concluded so far

    Died

    Kesin Ommis
    Zev Senesca
    Dack Ralter
    Tenk Lenso
    Kasan Moor?

    Lived

    Luke Skywalker
    Wedge Antilles
    Dash Rendar
    Wes Janson
    Hobbie Klivian
    Dixie Rivan
    Samoc Farr
    Tarrin Datch
    Taarn Mison
    Tycho Celchu?

    That's 15. If there were 10, that leaves 6 unaccounted pilots.
    Perhaps ther is something in Decipher cards?

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    Are you sure that Dix Rivan fought on Hoth ??

    There is nothing more in the decipher cards ... Well, it doesn't surprise me that we can't get all the pilots. Remember the scène where Leia and Derlin talk to all these pilots ? There are plenty of them, if only they had their own name ...

    There is another Pilot called Zev. It's not Zev Senesca and not Zevulon Veers (the EU son of General Veers). I've forgotten his name, but I once had a contest and one of the contestants send in that name. I had to look for the answer myself and thought it was an okay answer, so it mut be out there somewhere

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