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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimace View Post
    I, for one, am very happy that JJ Abrams declined to work on the new Star Wars films.
    I'm not disappointed, although it may be for different reasons. Abrams starwarsified Star Trek. What's he going to do with real Star Wars? Make it even more like Star Wars? No. And as much as I liked Star Trek (09), all the camera shaking in Star Wars would probably get on my nerves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whill View Post
    I'm not disappointed, although it may be for different reasons. Abrams starwarsified Star Trek. What's he going to do with real Star Wars? Make it even more like Star Wars? No. And as much as I liked Star Trek (09), all the camera shaking in Star Wars would probably get on my nerves.
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    So the story about Abrams declining Star Wars early on going public must have been a ploy to get more money... that worked.

    Star Wars Is Being Kick-Started with Dynamite J.J. Abrams to Direct Star Wars: Episode VII

    I'm not dissappointed it is Abrams either. He's a big fan of the classic trilogy. They could do so much worse. Maybe it's better to ensure a Starwarsified new Star Wars trilogy (as opposed to a possibly de-Starwarsified new Star Wars trilogy by someone else). I'm choosing to look at this as a good sign, and I remain cautously optimistic about the next film trilogy.

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    Yeah, the "meh" is increasing in me with this news. Not quite the direction I was hoping for when it came to putting a good look to new Star Wars movies. Still, I'll wait until I see his first work in Star Wars before definitively saying whether it's a hit or miss for me.
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    Its exactly the same.
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    JJ Abrams? Well, I bet the movie will be big and bright and loud and fast. But will there be any substance behind the flash? I hope so, but I'm not ready to bet on it.
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    Not disappointed, not notably thrilled either.

    I'm going to just continue keeping an open mind moving forward, and appreciating that I will almost certainly get some entertainment value out of a new movie.

    The positive is that Abrams is a fan of the original trilogy, so one hopes that he will approach the material with the respect of a fan. Given his success lately, it says to me that Disney wanted a safe choice-- if that is the attitude they are bringing to the picture I think that is the result they will get. I will take broadly enjoyable, if unambitious, over an overwrought first attempt that torpedoes the franchise reboot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostek View Post
    an overwrought first attempt that torpedoes the franchise reboot.
    That pretty much sums up my reaction to JJ Trek. IMO, he was the wrong choice for Trek, but his style could be a better fit for SW. Time will tell.
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    It's nice to see someone else that didn't care for Abrams' "change" to Trek, Sarge. I'm not a big fan of the new trek either. I hope he does a better job with Star Wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimace View Post
    It's nice to see someone else that didn't care for Abrams' "change" to Trek, Sarge. I'm not a big fan of the new trek either. I hope he does a better job with Star Wars.
    I'm with both of you; it was watchable, and that's about all I can say for it.

    Honestly, I haven't cared for anything he's done so far; his movies, his television shows, nothing. The bit of optimism I had for Episode VII began to fade when Abrams was confirmed, though one of my friends is a huge fan of Abrams and his Tret movie (best Trek ever after Wrath of Khan, according to him), and he is positively ecstatic over this news. All I can do is groan and hope he can at least do marginally better than the prequel trilogy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seghast View Post
    All I can do is groan and hope he can at least do marginally better than the prequel trilogy.
    Hey, if Star Wars VII is better than Attack of the Clones (my least favorite of the saga), I'll do cartwheels!

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    Yeah New Trek is about as watchable as EP2 for me as well but for similar reasons.

    Trek has some brilliant flashy scenes to it but at the same time there is so much dumb... I mean if I wanted 90210 space dumb I would watch Starship Troopers (or one of its sequels). Now it would be easy to blame most of the dumb on the writers, but imo Abrams deserves some of the credit since he is the one who actually transferred it to the screen instead of going back for a re-write.

    I only hope that the treatment by Lucas goes into a script by Arndt which is better researched and makes more sense then Trek; because from what I have seen Abrams doesn't fix.... he just adds to the dumb.

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    What areas of the new trek did you think were dumb?
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    The biggest thing I think for me was how emotionally unstable many of the characters are... it seems they are more modeled off of teens then actual mature individuals, like prequel Anakin or most of the characters in the new BSG (the main reason I don't care so much for that show). Too much posturing and angst for my taste.

    Also consistency makes or breaks a fictional creation. For Trek I can appreciate the alternate universe part of it so that the characters are different, however I do have a hard time with science being off. Every time I encounter an inconsistency (that I notice) I get thrown out of the setting. This happens in Star Wars as well... as anyone who has watched the Clone Wars cartoons knows.

    I don't really care for the goofy bits that don't add anything other then time spent watching in anything including Trek or TPM or whatever.

    If actual specific scenes are desired I would have to watch it again. I haven't seen it in a year; I've found its one of the films that my appreciation decreases with each viewing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armadious View Post
    The biggest thing I think for me was how emotionally unstable many of the characters are... it seems they are more modeled off of teens then actual mature individuals, like prequel Anakin or most of the characters in the new BSG (the main reason I don't care so much for that show). Too much posturing and angst for my taste.
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