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    The famous A-Wing pilot of them all is apparently a woman:

    http://kotaku.com/5967701/wow-there-...jedi/gallery/1

    I did not know about this. I wish Lucas hadn't cut them all out, or overdubbed Crynyd. It'd be nice to see some girl fighter pilots.

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    Indeed, to all of that.

    One day it dawned on me that Star Wars is strangely devoid of women. Period. They're almost entirely the single female lead (Leia, Padme), a nameless support character (Mon Mothma), or an escort/slave girl. I'm pretty sure that Padme and Shmi are the only named female characters in the entire prequel series.
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    "Arvel Crynyd" (Green Leader) is not the pilot played by a woman. The artical you referenced states, "Bizarrely, one of the A-Wing pilots, pictured up top, had her lines dubbed over by a male voice actor in post-production (though people are telling me she's still visible in the film)." It's the middle (black-and-white) picture at the top.

    Until the blu-ray special features last year, I didn't realize that actor was female with the voice was overdubbed by a male either. Of course if you watch the deleted scenes, you'll see that her performance was just horrible. The poor lady didn't really have the slightest clue what she was saying. Someone was just feeding her the space battle jargon line by line and she repeated them one by one. I assume that even having her in the battle was because Lucas had originally wanted female pilots and one of them to be an an aged experienced veteran.

    I can only speculate that the reason her footage wasn't just axed is Lucas felt they didn't have enough usuable fighter pilot cockpit footage to completely do away with her. But since her performance was so bad, he thought he could salvage it with overdubbing her line. Perhaps this overdub was done in post-production crunch-time and there were no older females readily available when it had to be done. It is definitely not the case her voice was overdubbed out of sexism, because if Lucas didn't want any female Rebel pilots they wouldn't have been cast in the first place.

    If you watch the RotJ deleted scenes, I'm sure you'll agree that particular elderly female actor was just bloody awful. But I should add this to my anti-purist fanboy laundry list of things that remains unfixed about the classic trilogy. They could have filmed new and better female pilot footage and inserted it in her place!

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    Fingon,

    Yeah, that's always annoyed me. Lucas fouled up on that one.

    Whill,

    Except the article says there are two A-Wing pilots, and shows both of them. That old pilot doesn't show up in the movie, but the younger one, Crynyd, does.

    Though I do have questions. Something smells Wookiee about all of this. Like the X-Wing pilot; that image looks too high-res to be from 1982/83.
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    Pretty sure the most famous A-Wing pilot of all is Tycho Celchu.
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